Hot Debian LÖVE

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Hot Debian LÖVE

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Remember how "apt-get love" used to be just a pun? It will now become more than a pun:
Miriam Ruiz (e-mail) wrote: Hi,

My name is Miriam Ruiz, and I'm a Debian Developer. I found about Löve
some days ago and it's really cool. I want to include it into Debian
official repositories. Right now I have the package almost finished, I
just have some doubts about the copyright issues for the demos
distributed with the program. In fact, I want to be sure about the
copyright and license issues of the music and the graphics included in
them.

As a side note, would it be possible to distribute the documentation
along with the program too? I've seen that there's some documentation
online, but sometimes when you're coding you might be offline and it
can be convenient to have it in your computer. I'd like to create a
package with the documentation too, if it was possible. Would it be
possible to distribute the documentation under a free license too?

Congratulations for the program, it's really great!

Greetings,
Miry
Awesome, right?

Does anyone have a license suggestion for the documentation? I'm looking in your direction, qubodup :3
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For the DOCUMENTATION? Public Domain. Why would you license documentation? I genuinely don't understand.

If that doesn't work for you, retain Copyright but release under a Creative Commons License.

Also, congratulations! This means you'll be pretty much one step from being an Ubuntu installation as well. :D
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I see a world where all ubuntu releases come with the latest version of LÖVE... *sigh* ah, that would be great.
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You guys are definitely on the fast track for giving PyGame a run for its money.
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Xfcn wrote:Why would you license documentation? I genuinely don't understand.
Miriam Ruiz (e-mail) wrote:... Would it be possible to distribute the documentation under a free license too? ...
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That's a wonderful new!
It'll be easier than to have people compile Löve themselves.

About the documentation, why not release it under the free zlib licence as for the rest of this project?
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rude wrote:Does anyone have a license suggestion for the documentation? I'm looking in your direction, qubodup :3
I'm honored :)

Great to know that Debian's gonna get some LÖVE treatment!

I. Some people want documentation copylefted, so that if anyone else improves it, it will have to be free to everyone. GFDL would be the license for that.

II. A simple license which permits nearly everything (like the zlib/libpng license or the freebsd documentation license) on the other had, at least makes sure that the original author is known. Which is a good thing, because It's good to know who wrote what you're reading. The FreeBSD Documentation License would be the one to choose as a simple, permissive, for-documentation license.

III. Public domain wouldn't require you to attribute the authors, and not doing so might result in a loss of relatively valuable information for the end user.

I recommend the FreeBSD Documentation License, as I don't know whether it's generally accepted when zlib/libpng is used for documentation (it has the word "software" in it all over again and again after all :).

Question: What kind of format does the documentation come in? Is it hand-written html? Or are there some kind of sources available?
Xfcn wrote:For the DOCUMENTATION? Public Domain. Why would you license documentation? I genuinely don't understand.
Why would you license code and art? - All three are work..
Xfcn wrote:If that doesn't work for you, retain Copyright but release under a Creative Commons License.
CC licenses are too long and complex (example: Creative Commons Attribution), at least in my opinion. :) Also they are not designed for documentation, while the GFDL and FBSDL are.
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lg.newImage("cat.png") -- made possible by lg = love.graphics
-- Don't force fullscreen (it frustrates those who want to try your game real quick) -- Develop for 1280x720 (so people can make HD videos)
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Shweet. In a few years, we'll have our LÖVE in stable. Unfortunately, by that time, LÖVE will be property of Microsoft and 0.3.2 will have little in common with LÖVE System Platform 2020 Extra Brut Champion Enterprise Edition. A sad, sad story...
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You see? This is why I'm looking in qubodup's direction :D

FreeBSD Doc license looks great. Using that. Thanks, qubo.

The documentation is generated from an XML-file, so yes, there is a source. However, from what I understand, the Debian developer wants a license for the finished HTML.
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Please do provide the source though, it might be interesting for some people :)

and you should correct the words in the license text too (XML and XHTML) instead whatever markup language is used in the freebsd docs
lg.newImage("cat.png") -- made possible by lg = love.graphics
-- Don't force fullscreen (it frustrates those who want to try your game real quick) -- Develop for 1280x720 (so people can make HD videos)
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